09:15, 6 பெப்ரவரி 2010 இல் Hariki

2010-02-06T09:15:25Z

18:47, 14 ஜனவரி 2010 இல் Ksubashini

2010-01-14T18:47:03Z

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Dev: "Vibhishana - Part 2" காக்கப்பட்டது ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))

2010-01-14T12:37:43Z

"Vibhishana - Part 2" காக்கப்பட்டது ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))

Dev: புதிய பக்கம்: = The expulsion =
Vibishana was not a traitor. He did not have a choice but to leave Ravana…
‘Don’t be afraid!’ laughed Ravana.…

2010-01-14T12:37:00Z

புதிய பக்கம்: = The expulsion = <blockquote> Vibishana was not a traitor. He did not have a choice but to leave Ravana… </blockquote> ‘Don’t be afraid!’ laughed Ravana.…

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 = The expulsion  =
 <blockquote>Vibishana was not a traitor. He did not have a choice but to leave Ravana… </blockquote>
 ‘Don’t be afraid!’ laughed Ravana. ‘venjinam tharu pOrin emmudan eza vENdaa.’ You need not come with us to the battlefield. ‘inji maanagar idam udaiththu.’ This well protected island has sufficient space. ‘eeNdu inidhu iruththi.’ You may remain here (doing nothing, simply.) ‘anjal anjal endru.’ Be not afraid. Then Ravana did the most humiliating of things. ‘arugu irundhavar mugam nOkki’ (thus saying) he (sarcastically) looked at the faces of those who were around. ‘nanjin veyyavan kai erindhu urum ena nakkaan’ He who was more venomous than venom itself, clapped his hands and laughed a laugh like thunder.
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 = In submission lies my salvation  =
 <blockquote>‘Do not stand in my presence. I am restraining myself from killing you only because I am afraid of the blame that it would result in. Get away from here and do not show your face else I will slay you the same moment.’ After Ravana uttered these words, there was no choice for Vibishana but to leave him. </blockquote>
 He rose up high in the sky and spoke to Ravana from there. His words show that still it was difficult for him to leave the side of Ravana. But he was convinced that the time for bringing him to reason has already past and he could not stay by his side any more, for it was not in his mould to bear what is not right.
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 = In submission lies my salvation II  =
 <blockquote>Total surrender. Submission. It needs a simple yet specific mental state. The person who seeks refuge in Him has to fulfil just only one condition. He or she should have total and unshakeable faith. That ‘He would not leave me; He would protect me; He would stand by my side always’ should be the sole and firm resolve of the person. Pillai Perumal Aiyangar wrote these beautiful lines on Dhraupathi’s condition when Dhuchasana was engaged in the most atrocious act of stripping her saree in the presence of all. </blockquote>
 ‘mei thavaLa sangu eduththaan mEgalai vittu angai thalai<br>vaithavaL achang keduththaan vaazhvu’
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 = It is a long, long road indeed  =
 <blockquote>A pursuer would naturally be faced with difficult situations. It is up to him to play his cards properly. </blockquote>
 It takes a great deal of mental strength and equanimity to walk into a camp that has not yet understood one’s intentions and purposes. Agreed that Vibishana had faith and was preparing himself for seeking refuge in Rama, whom he considered the very embodiment of Dharma. But that is an internal preparation and he had absolute control over it. Life does not after all end with an internal preparation and reaching a mental state of readiness. There are external forces too that come between you and your purpose.
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 = Hasten slowly  =
 <blockquote>The ghosts of the past are so strong that they would cling to you even if you wish to move away from them… </blockquote>
 Kamban’s version differs from that of Valmiki here again. Valmiki shows Vibishana as appearing in the skies along with his ministers. Sugriva saw them and immediately drew the attention of his army, headed by Hanuman and said “Lo, armed with all (kinds of) weapons and accompanied by four of his kind, this ogre is undoubtedly approaching to kill us.’ Lifting up sal trees and rocks on hearing the words of Sugriva, all those jewels among monkeys submitted as follows: - “Command us, at once, O king to kill these evil-minded ones so that on being killed, they may fall down on earth, endowed as they are with poor vitality.” Reaching the northern shore (even) as they were talking with one another (in this strain), the aforesaid Vibishana stopped short while he was yet in the air. Gazing on Sugriva and those monkeys, the aforesaid Vibishana, highly intelligent and great as he was, spoke as follows in a loud voice while still remaining in the air.” (Valmiki Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda, Canto XVII, Sloka 7 to 11)
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 = Surrender unto His lotus feet  =
 <blockquote>‘I will not in any circumstance let him down’, said Rama ‘who comes to me seeking my protection’. And the next Sloka falls as decisive as thunder. </blockquote>
 The commotion on one side attracted the attention of Hanuman and he assigned two of his best men, Mayindhan and Dhumindhan, learned in the art of face reading and asked for a report. They were convinced says Kamban because the five were ‘chalak kuri ilar’ found to have no semblance of anger or clandestine intentions.
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 = A devotee here and a traitor there  =
 <blockquote>Vibishana is regarded as a devotee by some people whereas another group brands him as a traitor. What is the truth and where lies the reason? </blockquote>
 There has been a debate going on for a very long time in this country, one group praising Vibishana as a baktha while the other group holding him as a traitor. There is reason behind both the groups holding him in different lights. To find out why Vibishana has come to be regarded as a traitor and how he qualifies for the position of a baktha, we will have to stop our approach of Ramayana as a religious text and get into kind of literary polemics.
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 = A devotee here and a traitor there II  =
 <blockquote>How Vibishana was come to be seen as a traitor in one part of India while he is respected as a devotee in the other… </blockquote>
 Before we proceed with our discussion, it is all the more important to keep one point in mind. Valmiki was a contemporary of Sri Rama. He even plays an important role in the Uttara Kanda. It is therefore understandable that when Valmiki wrote the epic – which Sri Rama himself heard through his own children – he was more a king than a God. Any people who are ruled by the noblest of kings would naturally and obviously regard their king with awe and may perhaps even speak of him as God. But they certainly would not go to the extent of building temples for him and start worshipping him, at least during this lifetime. Therefore, Valmiki’s positioning of Rama more as a strategist is comprehensible.
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 = Who is a traitor?  =
 <blockquote>“Always remember, since ancient times, it has been known that the true object of war is peace,” says James Clavevell… </blockquote>
 Sastriyar says, “I was naturally hurt very much by the reference to my master Gokhale, but I was still more hurt by the use of the name Vibishana to signify a traitor. I had been brought up to believe that Vibishana was a Baktha of the first order, that he was a noble character who might be held up to pious people as an example of devotion to Dharma and to those who practised it with sincerity.”
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 There were no national issues involved, no governmental matters involved, no specific issue that led to the advancement either of the people or of widening of territory was involved. This fellow thieved somebody’s wife and was not prepared to return her, and his justification was that he belonged to the great and mighty Rakshasa race. The person whose wife he coveted belonged to the puny and powerless human race. It would be a shame to return her, as it would signify that the great Ravana was afraid, if he were to comply with the demand.
 <blockquote>When Vibishana came out, it was more out of compulsion than out of his own desire. He was threatened with death penalty, if he stayed in Lanka any more. He walked over to the side of Rama because he saw that that was the place where he could find his solace and practice what he believed in. That was the reason why he left Ravana, leaving his wife and daughter behind in Lanka. His daughter, Trijata, was in fact the chief and was the closest of all rakshasa women in whose charge the imprisoned Sita was put. </blockquote>
 Neither in Valmiki nor in Kamban we see Vibishana desiring the throne of Ravana. He comes to Rama with a request for refuge and nothing more than that. As we have seen presently, Rama sought for information on the fortes and foibles of Ravana and Lanka as soon as he granted him refuge and Vibishana details them out. In the end he gives an assurance to Sri Rama that he would help him in killing all the ogres. “I shall with all my strength render assistance (to you) in killing the ogres and storming Lanka and shall (also) break through the army (of ogres).” (Valmiki Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda, Canto 19, Sloka 23)
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 = Refinement of the drama  =
 <blockquote>Kamban rearranges the sequence of events that present Vibishana in a better light… </blockquote>
 In our country all our ancient literature is religious in nature. The critic here deals with a material that is holy. He does not have the luxury that the Western critic enjoys, when he studies say, King Lear. Nonetheless it is essential to see the characters as well as the epic in their literary aspect as well while keeping the religious aspect too in view, in order to study the reasons for differences in opinion that prevail in different parts of the country on the same character.
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 <br>Hari Krishnan
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Vibhishana - Part 2 - திருத்த வரலாறு

09:15, 6 பெப்ரவரி 2010 இல் Hariki

18:47, 14 ஜனவரி 2010 இல் Ksubashini

Dev: "Vibhishana - Part 2" காக்கப்பட்டது ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))

Dev: புதிய பக்கம்: = The expulsion = Vibishana was not a traitor. He did not have a choice but to leave Ravana… ‘Don’t be afraid!’ laughed Ravana.…

Dev: புதிய பக்கம்: = The expulsion =
Vibishana was not a traitor. He did not have a choice but to leave Ravana…
‘Don’t be afraid!’ laughed Ravana.…