Kaikeyi - Part 2 - திருத்த வரலாறு

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Dev: "Kaikeyi - Part 2" காக்கப்பட்டது ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))

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Dev: புதிய பக்கம்: = The unusual reaction = How would a loving son react when he sees his dear father – whom he saw only the previous night so bright and happy – lying on the f…

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புதிய பக்கம்: = The unusual reaction = How would a loving son react when he sees his dear father – whom he saw only the previous night so bright and happy – lying on the f…

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 Satrughna saw Manthara in the crowd and that very moment – very similar to Lakshmana – showed his fiery temper and caught her with the intention of kicking her off. ‘munnayar murai keda mudiththa paaviyaich chinna binnam seydhu en sinaththaith theervenel.’ I would have cut her (Kaikeyi) down to pieces for what she did and killed her to quench my anger. ‘ennai en ayyan thurakkum endru alaal annai endru uNarndhilen ayya naan.’ I desisted from doing so not because I value her as my mother but because of the fear that if I do so Rama would disown me.
-Is there a punishment severer than this for Kaikeyi to suffer? She stood witness to her son uttering these words. And she stood silent and unmoving when Bharata lashed out at her when introducing her to Guha (in Kamban and to Bharadwaja in Valmiki) with the choicest of unkind remarks ‘padar ellam padaiththaaLai,’ She is the one who is capable of creating newer and newer kinds of misery in this world. ‘pazhi vaLarkkum seviliyai,’ She is the nurse who nurtures, tends and grows (the baby known as) disrepute, infamy and calumny. (See: The mother of woes and nurse of infamy)
+Is there a punishment severer than this for Kaikeyi to suffer? She stood witness to her son uttering these words. And she stood silent and unmoving when Bharata lashed out at her when introducing her to Guha (in Kamban and to Bharadwaja in Valmiki) with the choicest of unkind remarks ‘padar ellam padaiththaaLai,’ She is the one who is capable of creating newer and newer kinds of misery in this world. ‘pazhi vaLarkkum seviliyai,’ She is the nurse who nurtures, tends and grows (the baby known as) disrepute, infamy and calumny. (See: [http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Guhan_-_Part_4#The_mother_of_woes_and_nurse_of_infamy The mother of woes and nurse of infamy])
 What else can than a person suffer more than humility, that too humiliation in the presence of a stranger, in the presences of all Gurus, public and the other queens, to be slighted like this by her own son, for whom she sought the entire kingdom! Nevertheless, the fact remains that Kaikeyi joined the party that set out to bring Rama back to Ayodhya. She was not invited to join and she could have very well remained at the palace, in protest of things going out of her hand and against her desire. ‘azhindhadhu kEkayan madandhai aasai pOi,’ says Kamban. ‘The desire of the daughter of the king of Kekaya died its natural death, with the people headed by Bharata moving to the jungle to bring him back.
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 This portion of the drama is, however, absent in Kamban. Let us go according to the version of Valmiki and examine the questions of the reader in the light of what the Poet has shown us.
-As we have mentioned in the very first instalment (See: Kaikeyi), Kaikeyi was right from the beginning very aggressive character. That aggressive outer was a mere shell to cover the sense of insecurity that she had at heart. (See: Insolent are really insecure and Insolent are really insecure II).
+As we have mentioned in the very first instalment (See: [http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_1#Kaikeyi Kaikeyi]), Kaikeyi was right from the beginning very aggressive character. That aggressive outer was a mere shell to cover the sense of insecurity that she had at heart. (See: I[http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_1#Insolent_are_really_insecure nsolent are really insecure] and [http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_1#Insolent_are_really_insecure_II Insolent are really insecure II]).
 = Bharata's nightmare <br>  =

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 Therefore, it is not possible to say that Kaikeyi did this as a ‘good turn for her son motivated by the desire to win his love back.’ It was her feeling of insecurity that changed her heart. She could not think of having to stand at the doorsteps of Kausalya, once Rama became the king, to get her approval for giving out alms. And if we may add the finer point that Kamban brought in, Kekaya was in danger of being attacked by Janaka, who was observing restraint, according to Manthara, just because of the fact that the former was the father-in-law of Dasaratha. When Rama became the king, Manthara says, ‘he would support only his father-in-law, Janaka, in case a war brakes out and the king of Kekaya stood in great danger of being vanquished because of this coronation.’
-That was the last straw that broke the camel’s back. Kaikeyi desired the kingdom for Bharata only because of the four reasons that we had already stated in our summing up. (See: The fall and rise)
+That was the last straw that broke the camel’s back. Kaikeyi desired the kingdom for Bharata only because of the four reasons that we had already stated in our summing up. (See[http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_2#The_fall_and_rise : The fall and rise])
 As Kamban said, it is due to her unsympathetic behaviour that day that we are able to celebrate the high qualities of Rama! ‘thoo mozhi madamaan irakkam inmai andrO’ Is it not due to her unsympathetic behaviour, ‘indru iv ulagangaL iraaman parakkum thol pugazh amudhinaip parugukindradhuvE’ that the people all over the world are able to taste the nectar of Rama’s name and fame?

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 The conventional reading gives out the meaning that is rendered above. Let us punctuate it slightly differently. ‘mannavan paNi anndru; aagil num paNi maruppanO yaan?’ Insert a semicolon and see the effect. ‘Mother, I know that this is not the order of the king. This is your order. But then it doesn’t make a difference to me. It is equally binding on me. I accept what you order me to do.
-This needs a little more elaboration. We have already substantiated the second reading given above. (See: ‘Father’s or mother’s words?’ and ‘Father’s or mother’s words? II) This point needs some further elaboration.
+This needs a little more elaboration. We have already substantiated the second reading given above. (See: ‘[http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_1#Father.E2.80.99s_or_mother.E2.80.99s_words.3F Father’s or mother’s words]?’ and ‘[http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Kaikeyi_-_Part_1#Father.E2.80.99s_or_mother.E2.80.99s_words.3F_II Father’s or mother’s words? II]) This point needs some further elaboration.
 = The elusive question  =
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 When we are about to pull the curtains down on Kaikeyi, I have to answer some valid questions -
 <blockquote>Even before Bharata gets to know whatever Kaikeyi had done, he seems to have a bad impression of Kaikeyi. As per Valmiki Ramayana, when he asks about the health of his three mothers, he describes Kausalya as saintly, Sumitra as wise and Kaikeyi as haughty. Does that mean he had a bad impression of his own mother for long and so he did not have much respect for her? If that were so, Kaikeyi also should have been aware of that. Can you please elaborate on this scene? </blockquote> <blockquote>
 My own opinion is Bharata did not have much regards for Kaikeyi for long. To regain his respect she insisted on getting the crown for him and to remove the obstacle on that way, she was adamant to send Rama to the forest. (That was her idea of doing something for her son.)”
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 The questions fall under two major heads. The first one is ‘Is it a fact that Bharata had scant respect for Kaikeyi even before he came to know of what she did?’ The second one is that, ‘If yes, did Kaikeyi think of doing something good for her son, with the intention of winning his love?’ Yes, the answer to the first question is true. Bharata does not seem to have high regards for Kaikeyi. It may be recalled here that Bharata was sent to Kekaya soon after the marriage in Mithila and it was after a period of 12 years that the decision to enthrone Rama was taken. That is to say, Bharata had lived away from the family for a long period of 12 years now. At the time of marriage, Rama was 16 and Bharata, who was just one day younger to him, was also 16 at that time. The impressions that he had collected of Kaikeyi in his boyhood must have been haunting him.
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 This portion of the drama is, however, absent in Kamban. Let us go according to the version of Valmiki and examine the questions of the reader in the light of what the Poet has shown us.
 As we have mentioned in the very first instalment (See: Kaikeyi), Kaikeyi was right from the beginning very aggressive character. That aggressive outer was a mere shell to cover the sense of insecurity that she had at heart. (See: Insolent are really insecure and Insolent are really insecure II).
 = Bharata's nightmare <br>  =

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 When we are about to pull the curtains down on Kaikeyi, I have to answer some valid questions -
-<blockquote>Even before Bharata gets to know whatever Kaikeyi had done, he seems to have a bad impression of Kaikeyi. As per Valmiki Ramayana, when he asks about the health of his three mothers, he describes Kausalya as saintly, Sumitra as wise and Kaikeyi as haughty. Does that mean he had a bad impression of his own mother for long and so he did not have much respect for her? If that were so, Kaikeyi also should have been aware of that. Can you please elaborate on this scene? </blockquote>
+<blockquote>Even before Bharata gets to know whatever Kaikeyi had done, he seems to have a bad impression of Kaikeyi. As per Valmiki Ramayana, when he asks about the health of his three mothers, he describes Kausalya as saintly, Sumitra as wise and Kaikeyi as haughty. Does that mean he had a bad impression of his own mother for long and so he did not have much respect for her? If that were so, Kaikeyi also should have been aware of that. Can you please elaborate on this scene? </blockquote> <blockquote>
 My own opinion is Bharata did not have much regards for Kaikeyi for long. To regain his respect she insisted on getting the crown for him and to remove the obstacle on that way, she was adamant to send Rama to the forest. (That was her idea of doing something for her son.)”
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 The questions fall under two major heads. The first one is ‘Is it a fact that Bharata had scant respect for Kaikeyi even before he came to know of what she did?’ The second one is that, ‘If yes, did Kaikeyi think of doing something good for her son, with the intention of winning his love?’ Yes, the answer to the first question is true. Bharata does not seem to have high regards for Kaikeyi. It may be recalled here that Bharata was sent to Kekaya soon after the marriage in Mithila and it was after a period of 12 years that the decision to enthrone Rama was taken. That is to say, Bharata had lived away from the family for a long period of 12 years now. At the time of marriage, Rama was 16 and Bharata, who was just one day younger to him, was also 16 at that time. The impressions that he had collected of Kaikeyi in his boyhood must have been haunting him.

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 = Did Bharata respect Kaikeyi at all?  =
-When we were about to pull the curtains down on Kaikeyi, I have to answer some valid questions -
+When we are about to pull the curtains down on Kaikeyi, I have to answer some valid questions -
 <blockquote>Even before Bharata gets to know whatever Kaikeyi had done, he seems to have a bad impression of Kaikeyi. As per Valmiki Ramayana, when he asks about the health of his three mothers, he describes Kausalya as saintly, Sumitra as wise and Kaikeyi as haughty. Does that mean he had a bad impression of his own mother for long and so he did not have much respect for her? If that were so, Kaikeyi also should have been aware of that. Can you please elaborate on this scene? </blockquote>
 My own opinion is Bharata did not have much regards for Kaikeyi for long. To regain his respect she insisted on getting the crown for him and to remove the obstacle on that way, she was adamant to send Rama to the forest. (That was her idea of doing something for her son.)”
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 This portion of the drama is, however, absent in Kamban. Let us go according to the version of Valmiki and examine the questions of the reader in the light of what the Poet has shown us.
 As we have mentioned in the very first instalment (See: Kaikeyi), Kaikeyi was right from the beginning very aggressive character. That aggressive outer was a mere shell to cover the sense of insecurity that she had at heart. (See: Insolent are really insecure and Insolent are really insecure II).
 = Bharata's nightmare <br>  =